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Menopause and Andropause Part 2

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When hormones shift, relationships feel it first. Dr. Beatrice Hyppolite sits down with nurse Taneesha Roberts for a clear, candid talk about menopause, perimenopause, and andropause and why these natural life stages can suddenly disrupt intimacy, touch, mood, and confidence. We get specific about what couples often misread as rejection: decreased libido, vaginal dryness, pain with intercourse, hot flashes, brain fog, and irritability, plus the emotional fallout when nobody names the change out loud.

We also get practical about healthcare. Nurse Roberts explains why many women get evaluated for palpitations, headaches, anxiety, or other symptoms without anyone connecting the dots to estrogen changes, and why self-advocacy and documentation can matter. We talk about bringing your partner to a doctor’s appointment so both of you hear the same explanations, ask better questions, and build a shared plan. You’ll also hear how journaling symptoms can make appointments more productive and help break the taboo when the topic feels too personal to say out loud.

From hormone replacement therapy (HRT) to non-hormonal options, we cover what “individualized care” really means, including who may not be a good candidate because of clotting disorders or certain cancers. We dig into lifestyle changes that support quality of life: strength training for muscle and stability, yoga for balance, swimming for full-body conditioning, and supplements like calcium plus vitamin D to address bone density loss and osteoporosis risk. We close with myths worth retiring, warning signs you should not ignore, and why aging is a privilege, not a sentence.

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Hormones And Relationship Friction

SPEAKER_00

Hello everyone, I'm Dr. Beatrice Hippolyte and this is your world. How can middle pause affect marriage, dating or family relationships?

SPEAKER_01

Um, really vastly. Vastly. Because in a marital relationship, a woman may feel with this decrease in hormones and estrogen that she don't touch me. She might feel like, you know what, I'm just not, my libido is down to nothing. I don't want you touching me. I don't rub my knee, get your hand off my shoulder, right? So that makes it difficult for a man who's in love with a woman and who's been laying in a bed next to a woman for a long time, for him to now have to climb into bed with this woman who doesn't even want to be touched. That's a blow. And if there's not a discussion that revolves around that change in her, naturally there's going to be breakdown within the relationship. How could there not be? Because there's not a clear communication as to what one is feeling, a validation of the other one's um what that person is feeling, and the coming together that they have to do in order to make it past whatever that current circumstance is. So in marital relationships, it has the potential to be a destroyer. Because if you don't know how to property, properly identify, address, validate, and communicate what is needed for support, then you're setting yourself up for failure. And because a lot of people don't have that education, they're already on that path.

SPEAKER_00

I'm glad that you mentioned the word education because that's a key word there. So I know for many of us who may not have the knowledge or may not be in a position to explain exactly what is going on, but we all at some point go to the doctors. So will you recommend that for women and for for both men and women, so who may be going to phases but don't really understand or cannot explain it fully or properly to the partners, can they take that partners with them at a medical visit? So where the doctor can fully explain to your partner, you know, hey, this is the stages, this is the phases, and

Bringing Your Partner To The Doctor

SPEAKER_00

so if you get to see this, you know, how to address it, how to respond to it. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Unfortunately, like we previously discussed, a lot of times women, their symptomatology is directed someplace else. The neurologist, the cardiologist, the you know, the the therapist, all different kinds of people before they actually are um tested, their estrogen levels are tested. For men, it it's almost immediate. They go in and they say, Listen, doc, I can't, you know, I can't perform. I can't perform. And then it becomes a quest to figure out how we can get you back up to your peak masculinity. And that even goes for like when a woman goes to a GYN. I've been experiencing hot flashes for the better part six, seven years. I go to my GYN and I talk to, you know, say this, and this is what I've, you know. And unless you really advocate for yourself, they're not doing a whole bunch of estrogen testing. They're like, you know, it's part of life as a woman. You they they they they'll give you things to try and cope with the situation lightly on your own. You know what I mean? But there's not necessarily a whole bunch of diagnostics that are done, you know, with without a great deal of advocacy for yourself. Whereas men, they just gotta say the word. And so going to a physician may or may not be, you know, the first line of defense for a woman. Because the first line of defense, she's gonna go into the doctor and she's gonna say, I've been having palpitations, I've been having, you know, headaches, I've been um a little bit moody, having hot flashes, and they say, Okay, well, that's you know, part of the thing. We'll we'll monitor it for the next six months and we'll see. Until the woman gets to the point where she is able to get the testing that she needs, a lot of times that diagnosis is just kind of like it's there, it's something you gotta deal with. But for men, they're much they tend to be much more proactive.

Respect Validation And Practical Workarounds

SPEAKER_00

Okay, but in that case, so what advice will you give married couple?

SPEAKER_01

I would say, again, respect, communication, and validation. Even if, as a woman, you're not very well versed on menopause, or if a man you're not very well versed on andropos, whatever the symptoms are, those symptoms need to be able to be respectfully communicated to the partner. And once you start from there, then you can brainstorm as to what do we think the best way is for us to resolve whatever the situation is. Let's see, do you know, maybe, maybe, okay, you're saying that the intercourse is causing you pain. Maybe we look up things that help are helpful that can reduce the pain. Not necessarily say, and and that's an education that you would experience together. You know what I'm saying? Not one-on-one, not one person by one person, saying, Well, I'm having this, and you know, that's that. It's something that would have to be communicated between the two of you respectfully, and and and then from there, the best plan of action would be to figure out what you could do to either mitigate the symptom or to quell the symptom or to some a go-around, but that's something that would needed to be done together as a couple. So I I think that's that's the the the take-home. The take-home is when it comes to those natural transitions in life, whether it be menopause or andropose, you have to be respectful of your partner. You have to listen to what it is that they're saying, you have to be able to communicate that you understand. Then you have to together figure out what you are going to do to solve the issue.

SPEAKER_00

What can we do best to address the problem?

SPEAKER_01

What can you do best to address the problem? If the problem is vaginal dryness and vaginal pain with intercourse, maybe a vaginal estrogen because they have vaginal estrogen gels that you can put there and that can kind of you know help alleviate some of the symptoms. You know what I mean? But that's something that couples would benefit for more if they learn those things together, if they experience those things together, as opposed to the burden of everything trying to be like on the woman. How am I gonna fix this for my husband? He wants to have sex and I'm just in pain. That's a burden for her to have to carry, which makes communication more difficult because she can't fully communicate if you're not gonna be prepared to listen and respectfully communicate back and find the resolution to whatever the situation may be.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so very

Hormone Therapy Risks And Candidates

SPEAKER_00

important. But I know there are people, you know, going through those natural phases or sometimes consider hormone replacement. So, what do you think about that and who can be the best candidates?

SPEAKER_01

So, people who should not be getting hormone replacement are people who have um like history of clotting disorders, people who have uh uh any forms of like a breast cancer or cervical cancer, like those kinds of things. Um, but that's a decision that would be made between the doctor and the patient and the patient, respectfully with the spouse in mind, right? Because if you're gonna be, if you if if you're gonna be having these conversations, your spouse may say, you know, oh, I see that there's a a higher risk, you know, with estrogen therapy for you to experience some sort of cancer. That husband might say, No, I wife, I don't want you to take that risk. I'd rather just go without the sex. Do you see what I'm saying? Or the spouse may say, Listen, risk it, girl. I need to, you know what I'm saying? Like, but that's something that has to happen between the couples, it has to happen between what the doctor tells you based on your personal medical history. Every person is gonna be different, every woman experiences menopause differently. So, like you said, you don't have the hot flashes and the you know, I do. Do you see what I'm saying? Every every person has a different experience in it when it comes to that natural transition. And so it has to be very specifically oriented to whatever your medical history is and whatever the current symptomatology is. And then once you guys get together and figure out with the doctor what the best care plan is for you, then you go for it.

SPEAKER_00

Will you say that there are some benefits to it?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, absolutely. It can it can benefit people tremendously, but that's something that it's all because everyone experiences it differently, everybody is gonna experience the the therapeutic remedies differently as well. You know what I mean? For some people, some medication may work with their hot flashes and other medications may not. It's gonna be very specific to the individual who is experiencing the symptom.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, that's good. So now we just, you know, you just went over the hormone replacement, but they also have some practice that people can follow by not considering taking any hormone replacement, lifestyle changes, exercise, proper nutrition, counseling, medications, and supplements. Right. What do you think about those?

SPEAKER_01

I think anybody who's suffering anything, if there is something that is proven

Lifestyle Changes Diet And Supplements

SPEAKER_01

to help them, whether it be an exercise regimen, whether it be a change in your diet, whatever that is, if you are comfortable participating in those changes and it's beneficial to you, absolutely do it. Because you want to have a better quality of life. At the end of the day, what you're looking for is to have a decent quality of life. And if those symptoms are causing such stress within your day-to-day life because you have to deal with it daily, right? If it's causing you a problem, if there's something out there that can help you, by goodness, do it. Do it. I I had I I would never protest anyone saying, Oh, I want to go on a hormone therapy, oh, I want to just change my diet and exercise routine, oh, I just want to whatever you think personally is gonna help you, and something that you and your partner are happy to deal with, then that's fine. And what and even if you don't have a partner, you know what I mean? Like it's it's really, like I said again, back to that individuality and what is going to make somebody more comfortable within their day-to-day life and give them the best possible outcome when it comes to quality of life.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because it varies for many people, even for the food to avoid. Right. You know, so I may say, you know what, oh, avoid this type of food, but it may work for a group of people, but the other people it doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for the again and again, so it's like everything, so you have to be in constant uh contact.

SPEAKER_01

Right, put all your irons in the fire, so put all your irons in the fire and see which one is getting hot, see which one is getting the job done, and constantly having a conversation with your care provider.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. Because about the different changes, what worked, what didn't work. Yeah, so it's like hey, we may say, you know what, avocado can is a good food for when you experience it, it may be good for you and may not be good for me. Right. So, but I want no, so I may be I may not be able to advise you on what type of food to consume. Exactly. Because I don't know what may work for you. And it goes as well for vitamins. You know, some people may say, you know what, hey, stick on your calcium, vitamin D, protein, fiber.

SPEAKER_01

Right, and and see the the thing, the thing about those vitamins that they that they um that are therapeutic for menopause, so in menopause, women lose a lot of bone density. Men lose bone density too, but then again, it's gradual. But for women, we lose our bone density. We're much more prone to uh bone breaks, fractures. We're we're must we're much more prone to getting fractured, you know, the weak ankles, all those things. So that's why they say make sure you're getting your calcium in. Because what they're doing is they're supporting your system so that if you fall, that added calcium is gonna perhaps help you not to break a bone. They want to try because they understand that you're losing bone density. And in order for us to replace that, you need the calcium, and with that goes like the vitamin D. Your body is not gonna absorb one without the other. So that's why you see a lot of times the your primary physician will say, Oh, we're gonna get you on vitamin D. A lot of women, part of their regular everyday, daily medication is a vitamin D3, right? We a lot of us, and we see it all the time. Oh, women, you should be taking your vitamin D, you should be taking your vitamin D because they want to protect you from the long-term effects of that estrogen loss and the osteoporosis that comes with it, the joint pain that comes with it, the shoulder lock that comes with it, all the things that come with it, they want to be able to tell you that these are the supplements that can help you, right? Not necessarily gonna change the outcome or the fact that you're losing estrogen or that your body system is actually changing based on that loss of estrogen, but to kind of support the things that you are losing.

SPEAKER_00

Interesting, right? Interesting.

Strength Training Yoga And Swimming

SPEAKER_01

So, in terms of exercise, so is there any specific one that you want to tap on, or so I'm not big on exercise personally, but from what I understand, strength training But you do you do do a lot of exercise in the garden. I do a lot of gardening stuff in the garden, but I don't have like an exercise regimen, like I'm not getting on a treadmill, I'm not lifting weights or anything like that. But strength training is thought to be very helpful when it comes to um menopause, andropause because both of them they're losing muscle mass for women, and they're both losing um bone density, and so strength training is helping those muscles stay strong, you know what I mean? So that you're able to sit up upright, so that you're able to, if you um are gonna trip and fall, maybe you're able to balance yourself a little better because you have the strength. You don't just kaputs go down because you can't stand up. You know what I mean? So strength training is where is what I think is the go-to when it comes to exercising.

SPEAKER_00

What about yoga and swimming?

SPEAKER_01

What about my what? Yoga and swimming. Yeah, but I mean those, but those those two, those help with muscles. The yoga helps with balance tremendously, right? And we know when you have osteoporosis, if you do fall onto the ground, it is likely that you can break a bone. But if you're taking yoga regularly and your balance is top tier, maybe you take a trip and you're not hitting the ground. Because you your body has trained itself to stay upright. Your body has trained itself to get in the downward-facing dog. Your body has trained itself and you have much more muscle strength to be able to keep yourself from falling on the floor. And with swimming, swimming is an exercise that uses all the muscles. You get you haven't been swimming in a long time, and you get in a pool and you start swimming that next day, you are sore because you have used every muscle there is in your body. So that's also kind of a strength training kind of thing because you're exercising those muscles and you're keeping them active. And as long as you have some kind of activity that's helping you to strengthen the muscles and you're taking the supplements that are gonna help you um assist with your your bone density loss, then you're you're kind of like on an upward trajectory, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, thank you.

Stress Cortisol And Symptom Journaling

SPEAKER_00

Now let's go to stress management. Uh, can stress make symptoms worse?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. In what way? Yes. So, as we know, cortis cortisol is a humdinga. Cortisol, increased cortisol levels prompt you to have more stress, more anxiety, all of those things. And when you're experiencing a decrease in the hormone of estrogen, the cortisol level is going up. Cortisol is increasing. So now here you are, you have this decreased estrogen, so now you got this brain fog going on, this joint pain going on, these hot flashes, the moodiness, and all those things, and your cortisol is naturally gonna rise, and that is the number one stress hormone. Your body gets stressed, the cortisol is coming, and that's a whole nother those things they work hand in hand.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. We spoke about uh uh counseling, yoga, but some people say, you know, uh journaling can be of assistance in that uh uh situation. I don't know if something if it is something you will agree on.

SPEAKER_01

So let's say a woman doesn't have a partner, or a man doesn't have a partner, and they want to be able to record what their symptoms are, what they were doing when they had these horrible hot flashes, what happened when they had this episode of complete brain fog, right? Sometimes that journaling can help you more easily express to your physician what is actually going on with you. And it might be a release for you too, because you can say to yourself, okay, so I've had my day was horrible because I had all this stuff going on. Let me put it down on paper. That's kind of a way to self-release and to get a little venting, if you will, with the journaling, writing it all down, getting it out of here and putting on to there, right? But then you also have a document that you can take with you when you go to your physician and say, Hey, on this day I had this going on, on this day I had that going on, on this day, this is what was going on. And your doctor may be able to pinpoint and say, Okay, well, what part of your ovulation stage were you in at that time? What time, you know, was it within the the last weeks, with the first couple weeks, or when was that happening? And they can see where you are experiencing the issue, where what is going on, and that can bring you closer. Coming with that documentation can bring you closer to some kind of estrogen testing as a woman because you have it written down all written down. This is what I've been this is what I've been going through.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so we

Myths Taboo And Not Feeling Old

SPEAKER_00

know in that we know within that topic, there are facts and there are myths. Do you want to tab on them? Whether facts and whether mate?

SPEAKER_01

I think um one of the myths is that every woman gets the hot flashes. Every woman has a decreased libido. Anytime you hear every or all, that's when you should throw a red flag up and say, you know what, maybe because even like I said, not all men experience subtherapeutic testosterone levels with andropos. The other thing is that I think there was a lot of concern at one time about men who do take testosterone therapy and whether or not that's associated um with increased risk for prostate cancer. And that has found not to be true. Right. That has found been found not to be true. So I think that sometimes even if a man is experiencing some symptoms, um if it's in his best interest, and he and his doctor can decide upon whether or not he wants to take a hormone therapy, that's something like again, an individual choice. Do you see what I'm saying? And I mean, I would hope that when people are experiencing any kinds of symptoms, whether they be from menopause or andhropose, whether or not they have a partner, they have a health care provider that is going to again listen, try to understand. And try to resolve whatever the issue may be, man or woman, woman or man alike. That people have the courage because it tends to be a taboo kind of subject. You know what I mean? For both men and women. A lot of times, those personal kinds of conversations, those personal things, a lot of people are not open enough to have those conversations with maybe their physician that they see for whatever other issues they may have. They, you know, sometimes people are just not comfortable having those conversations, which then again is a good time for that person to maybe journal because then you can write those things down. You don't have to verbalize them, right? And it may be something that you want to have a discussion with your physician about, but you don't want to bring it up. So maybe you drop it off at the physician's office a day or two before. Have them put it in your chart. Maybe you want your physician to review what your thought process is before you even go in. So you don't have to, you know, uh dryly come up with whatever whatever your topic may be. But I would hope that people have the courage, and I would also hope that healthcare providers have the the wherewithal and the know-how how to manage whatever symptomatology is coming their way and how to properly direct that patient to the best possible outcome.

SPEAKER_00

Another myth that I want to tap on, it's the belief that you know menopause means that you're old.

SPEAKER_01

No. No. Because so even as we discussed the onset of the of symptomatology of a woman between her 30s and her 40s, that perimenopause can start during those those periods, right? Um, in your 30s, you're not old. You're not old. You you you may be having some decline in the the hormone, but that doesn't mean that you're an old person. You can still move your body, you can still, you know, and if you stay on top of everything as you age, which is a blessing, it's a blessing to age, right? It's it's it's something wonderful to gain more wisdom, to gain more experiences. As you age, if you are keeping up and trying to do the things that are gonna decrease the effects that those hormonal changes are having on you, the better off you're gonna be in the long run.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, now let's uh let's uh address some medical questions. What symptom should never be ignored?

SPEAKER_01

Palpitations, okay, um anything that is tremendously impacting your day-to-day life. In women, a lot of times they are some genital urinary issues that happen with uh the onset of perimenopause and menopause, bladder issue, frequent urinary tract infection, um uh this pain with urination sometimes, sometimes um uh frequency, you know what I mean, not being able to hold the bladder, not being able to hold the urine, these are things that can happen during that perimenopausal state, right? Urine leakage, those kinds of things. Things that are really impacting your day-to-day life. If you're finding that you can't sit in a 10-minute meeting without getting up to go to the bathroom two, three times, you know what I mean? That's impacting the way that you have to live your daily life. If you feel that you can't, you know, you work in a place that, you know, doesn't have good air ventilation or whatever the case is, and you have to sit through work every day and you're having these hot flashes that are bringing you to panic, or you're having these hot flashes that are making you step away for frequent, you know, multiple times throughout the course of the day that's really impacting your day-to-day life. So if you're experiencing anything like that, that is a good indication that you should go and seek some medical help. You should say, hey, listen, I can't do my regular everyday thing now because I'm dealing with XYZ. Can we figure out a way to mitigate this symptom or can we figure out a way to um quell it all together? What can be done? And the same thing with men. If they feel like something is impacting their day-to-day activities, then by all means you should absolutely go and see a medical professional because ultimately the goal is to maintain the best quality of life that you can. So anything that's infringing upon that, you need to address it.

SPEAKER_00

Right away.

SPEAKER_01

Right away, right away, get rid of it. Do so do something about, be proactive about it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, very important. And my next question is like, are there warning

Red Flags To Never Ignore

SPEAKER_00

signs of serious illnesses? It can be.

SPEAKER_01

It can be, either way, it can be. There could be an issue where for men they have like hypogonadism. Their testosterone has gotten so low, you know, that that that it creates real health problems for them. The same thing with women, the estrogen is so low that it's creating tremendous health problems, whether they be cardiac problems, whether they be uh orthopedic problems, whether they be uh other endocrine problems, there are a host of other things that if gone untreated, right, because the idea is that our body maintains homeostasis and then we start decreasing in these hormones. And as we decrease in these hormones, our body is changing. And if there are things that are changing that are gonna affect us negatively, that are gonna affect our uh cardiac health negatively, that are gonna affect our um kidney health negatively, that are the respiratory health, those are things that if you don't take care of them, they can in turn into something that is gonna be a lot more detrimental than just you know the surface level symptoms that you may experience.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I know throughout the conversation we spoke about many things that menopause or on endropose can cause. Uh, but does menopause increase dementia risk?

SPEAKER_01

I want to say what I what I read was no, but I just want to verify that does not mean a person will develop dementia, right? That's what I thought. I thought the answer to that question was no. But what it does say is that estrogen changes and the brain function. Estrogen affects several brain processes, including communication, energy use, memory-related areas, and neurotransmitters. So while it's not necessarily a preemptive of dementia, there are a lot of, as you can see by looking at these things that are closely related to dementia. So, you know, you may not get dementia because you have menopause, but your dementia is age-related, there may be some symptoms that they are closely mimic each other. But for him, from here it says, um, no, menopause itself does not mean a person will develop dementia. Because there are lots of people who go through menopause and don't. There's lots of women who don't have dementia and they've gone through menopause, right? Because they've had 12 months or more without menstruation. So yeah, the the answer would definitely be no, but I knew that there was some connection between the two, and I couldn't quite pinpoint exactly what it is. That's why I wanted to refer to my notes. But there are a lot of the um, a lot of the the brain processes that mimic each other very closely.

SPEAKER_00

So now let's consider some cultural perspectives. Why are menopause and autroposes are still considered taboo?

SPEAKER_01

I think in a lot of cultures, sexuality in itself is taboo. You know, these are conversations that we're not having in front of children, these are conversations that some adults were not having these conversations in front of them because we know that they are not capable of having adult conversation based on the topic, right? So um, I think the only way that we can uh as human beings, the only way that we can overcome that barrier is that constant communication, that constant education, and the opening it up. And as you know, as our children learn, our children are generally more able to discuss things that as adults we may not want to, you know, we oh goodness, how are we gonna discuss this thing? But as the generations are coming along, because like for instance, my grandmother's generation was the silent generation, you're not finding out anything from anybody, they're not talking about certain things, everything, everything is best left best unsaid. You know what I mean? And technology was not hospital, and technology was not as prominent. Now we live in an age of information, and a lot of information is useful and helpful to us. And the younger generations, they have their finger on the button. They are able to find that education, and they may be able to be able to come to their parents and say, Hey, mom, I think that you are maybe experiencing some symptomatology of perimenopause, you know, and then that as the generations go

Culture Technology And Critical Thinking

SPEAKER_01

on, I think those conversations will become less taboo because there's so much now information about it.

SPEAKER_00

It's very important. Our new generation, so it's like, hey, before even knowing anything now, especially with AI. AI, you know, information is there. The information is there.

SPEAKER_01

And I think I even said in the last visit that I was here that when you want to do something, if you want to accomplish something, the only two things you need is the information and the resource. And then you can get it done. And the information is always right out there for you. You know, that's it.

SPEAKER_00

And one thing that I just hope is like for our young generation, not to allow AI to take the intelligence of the brain. Right. It's a good tool.

SPEAKER_01

It's a good tool to learn some information, but you have to have discernment. You have to be able to have some kind of discernment, and you have to be able to have the ability to critically think. Because just because someone is saying something to you doesn't necessarily mean that that is what the case is. And if you can't critically think, it's very difficult then to have a discernment that's gonna allow you to escape being completely engulfed in the alternative intelligence that we have.

SPEAKER_00

I've seen PJ's waving. It's a sign to say, you know what, girls, call the show up. You know, to it. So, but we're gonna do so. But before we do so, let's uh quickly go to the rapid fire questions.

SPEAKER_01

Oh goodness, rapid fire. Here we go. Let's see what you got.

SPEAKER_00

One word answer most misunderstood symptoms mood, what most overlooked symptoms?

SPEAKER_01

Um, the loss of bone density.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, biggest myth.

SPEAKER_01

Everybody has hot flashes.

SPEAKER_00

Most important vitamins, uh calcium, vitamin D.

SPEAKER_01

Best exercise. Strength training, strength exercises, things that are gonna help you with the with maintaining muscle mass and maintaining um bone density. And most important advice educate yourself, yes, that get with your medical professional, find out from them what you can do to help yourself work towards the best quality of life that you can have, whether you be a man or a woman.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, now final advice. If you could leave our audience uh with only one message about menopause and anthropoules, what that will be.

SPEAKER_01

My final piece of advice would be that it's something that we all experience. Um, and with that being said, if you lead with humanity and you're respectful of the person who is experiencing the symptoms, you will most likely um be able to navigate yourself through whatever that transition period is for you. Because the transition is gonna be different for everyone. And so if you're leading with humanity when it comes to your partner, if you're leading with humanity, even when it comes to yourself, because you have to give yourself grace as well, right? If you are leading with humanity in those instances when it comes to that natural transition that happens in everybody's life, you're gonna take care of yourself well, you're gonna do the things that you need to do to give yourself the best possible outcome, the best possible quality of life, because that's what we're all striving for.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you, thank you so much. You know how long I wanted to have uh

Rapid Fire Takeaways And Closing

SPEAKER_00

a talk on that subject, so it's like I've been searching, you know, all around. You know, even people who promised that they were gonna come, cancel on me, change their mind. And I'm like, I know one day I'll make you know I'll make it happen. Here I am. I know one day I'll make it happen, and sure enough, because of you.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you again for having me. Thank you for having me.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so much. And you know that you can come anytime. Whenever you have a hard topic, just call me. Hey, let's talk about that and we'll make it happen. So before I let you go, uh um, I'll say this today's conversation with my aunt of that menopause and anthropause are not diseases, they are natural stages of life. With the white knowledge, medical guidance, healthy lifestyle choices, and emotional support, individual can continue to thrive physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. Aging is a privilege. Hormonal changes are a part of life, not the ain't of it. The more we educate ourselves, the less fear, shame, and sigma these transitions carry. To everyone who's listening, if you or someone you love is experiencing these changes, know that you are not alone. There is help, there is hope, and there are effective treatments available. Never suffer in silence and never hesitate to seek professional medical advice when symptoms begin affecting your quality of life. Thank you to our wonderful guest, nurse Tanesha Roberts, for sharing such valuable knowledge. And thank you for taking time of your busy life. I know you have a busy, a busy life. I know you know the garden had to, you know, has to suffer today for you to be here, and for all of you who've been supporting the show since the day we started until today. So I thank you. All that said, I'll let you go. Please don't forget to subscribe. I'll see you next time.