Your world with Dr. Beatrice Hyppolite

Immigration Truths in a Panic-Driven World

Beatrice Hyppolite

Dr. Beatrice Hyppolite delivers a powerful exploration of immigration validation in today's heated political climate, offering a beacon of clarity amidst swirling misinformation and anxiety. Drawing on her expertise as a social worker with a doctorate in health sciences, Dr. Hyppolite partners with immigration lawyer Claudel Daniel to demystify complex immigration enforcement structures and their real-world impacts.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn when examining how immigration enforcement disproportionately targets certain communities while overlooking others. "There are a lot of Chinese who have been deported. There are a lot of Russians who have been deported," Daniel notes, challenging the common media narrative that enforcement primarily affects Latin American immigrants. This selective attention creates unnecessary panic in targeted communities while obscuring the system's broader application.

Dr. Hyppolite shares her personal experience with immigration uncertainty during the 2016-2017  TPS renewal crisis, recounting how rumors and fear drove many Haitians to make desperate decisions, including fleeing to Canada. This personal testimony illuminates the very real psychological and physical health consequences of immigration anxiety: "Our tension is going up...our sugar is going up. We start to lose appetite." 

The podcast doesn't shy away from examining America's contradictory relationship with immigration. The speakers reference John F. Kennedy's book "A Nation of Immigrants" to highlight how the country's historical identity clashes with current restrictive policies. They note the irony that many political leaders who champion tough immigration policies have themselves married immigrants.

For listeners struggling with immigration anxiety, Dr. Hyppolite offers both practical guidance and spiritual encouragement through her personal motto: "God starts, doesn't end." The episode equips immigrants with crucial knowledge about how immigration systems function, from enforcement agencies to legal challenges, while emphasizing the importance of verified information over social media rumors.

Listen now to gain clarity on your immigration journey and discover how to navigate these challenging systems with confidence and hope. Share your immigration story with us and join our community of informed, empowered immigrants.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone. I'm Dr Beatrice Ippolit and this is your World website immigration For validation. We are like a cold pill in us who have no capacity to go to the computer, to go to a website, to search, but if we wait for information, that makes us panic. We are small. We are small. We are small, we are small, we are small.

Speaker 1:

We don't need anyone who has come to search, for us to be able to verify who has come to do research, for you to be able to verify, validate information that you have, not just a video that you have seen. And because there are not only videos that you have seen even if I put Daniel on the end of the deal videos with the feeling that you are someone who has searched for views on TikTok, kunya, goklap and all and just for personal interest, we ourselves, we serve, together with that, to not panic. Our tension is very normal and then automatically we hear news that our tension is going up 90, not much. Our sugar is going up. We start to lose appetite, people start not to wait for us anymore, so we don't have no problem. We have to wait for our message on social media, because these days, social media is like we have no one who doesn't have a right to immigration, who doesn't have a right to immigration law, who doesn't advocate immigration?

Speaker 1:

It's you who gives information I myself, to make you understand this together with us. I am not a lawyer, my profession is social work and I have a doctorate in health sciences, and I can't come and say oh, I have good information, I'm looking for experts. It's Mr Claudel Daniel who is an immigration lawyer. We need to find out the expert. We need to find out the expert. We need to find out the expert. We need to find out the expert. We need to find out the expert. We need to find out the expert. We need to find out the expert. We need to find out the expert. We need to find out the expert. We need to find out the expert. We have a lot of people who are trying to verify our immigration website so that we can have the veracity to deliver this message. Next question I have for you, mr Daniel who is it that is able to reinforce immigration law, to reinforce immigration?

Speaker 2:

law. Okay. So mainly there are different institutions that have done immigration. The main one that everyone knows before, the INS, which is Immigration, that we call the QOAMA. We say, ah, I'm going to immigration, so that's where we see the files. It's them who analyze the files in general and that's where we apply the laws, mainly to know who entered, who is by residence, who is by citizenship, etc. That's for laws in a global way. But when there is, the EUFIN takes a series of decisions those who have made applications, like in the case of the DCPJ, who are there to apply, who are there to investigate, to determine who is going to go there, who is right and who is wrong. That's where ICE came from, ice itself in 2003, I know, you know this. Two institutions came together because, under President Obama, the question of immigration, had just begun and they were murdered.

Speaker 2:

That's when ICE was created. Under President Obama, the question of immigration is starting to take a turn and there are still some factors that are not necessarily legal, but that are coming into the picture. There is skin color, there is race, there is racism, I would even say, in a certain sense, which means that they have a phase that they are putting in and even if they talk about immigration, which seems that they are only concerned with Latinos and Chinese people, when there are a lot of people who came out in Europe, who are involved in everything, they don't talk about it very often on television. There are a lot of Chinese who have deported. There are a lot of Russians who have deported In Haiti. As I said earlier, in terms of numbers, for example, In 2022, there will be more deported than in Haiti. There will be 1,532 people. That means that every year there are more deported, and we know that since we arrived and we saw on television they showed us with their white clothes.

Speaker 2:

It's true that, in the face of Konya, there is the impression that it applies only to one group of people, Whereas it's not really that.

Speaker 2:

It's ICE that Konya has. As the government said, it was done with electoral promises, which seems as if it is the same who are in charge of the matter. The same is true for the Department of State, because they do not go to the United States and apply for a family that is abroad. They go to the immigration file, but they do not have a visa. They do not have a visa to enter the country. They have to go to the file by the Department of State. It is the Department of State that determines if there is a visa available for people and if they want to go to the other side, they want an appointment to go to the other side. So there are different institutions, depending on what phase of the case you are in, that are there to apply different immigration laws, and there are always others. But as it is, it is not private. If we have a little confusion, we can only talk about what's important.

Speaker 1:

Yes, because if we have a subject that is hot in the area, it's deportation.

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

But I say that unfortunately and I think that the focus should be on Haitians with some countries in the Panyol. It's because the PAN program was for four countries.

Speaker 2:

It was Haiti.

Speaker 1:

Venezuela, Cuba and El Salvador. So we know that the antipathy that the administration has not only against the Biden administration, but against the movement of everyone who has entered the country, Even though they entered the country legally, they have been able to reinforce their own objectives, to reinforce the decisions they want to make. They want to put them in the public's shoes. Not only are they illegal, but they are also criminals.

Speaker 2:

And that's why I think it's important for the type of work that is still being done to make people feel that they have confidence. It's not because they say they are criminals that they are considered to be automatically criminals and then they panic, because automatically they panic. It's like you said, it's not big at all. There is a point that in parallel, recently the government, mr Trompe l'an, said that everyone who was in the extension for Venezuela, 600,000 people approximately, who are CBP and who camp for Gamsa, so that means that automatically the arrival date for those who are in the area because it is not a problem, it is a progressive way. There are people who arrive in January, there are people in February, etc. Automatically it means that we equip groups of people who speak ill of us. So everyone knows that there are only 600,000 Venezuelans here. It's like they say they've added what they already have. So that's why it's increasing. It's like I said about opening up. It means opening up. It's as it comes.

Speaker 2:

When you concentrate on people who have been deported, with people who have criminal records, with people who are in criminal cases, we say that we are going to take a group of people like that and then we open it. Then we take another group of people. When we go there, we have to take people who don't have any papers but who just have a visa. What we think is important in this moment for people to really held in their heads is that there are natural limitations that come with the program to apply it. So when you say that you have to go to the hospital at night, you have to put them to sleep, you have to feed them, you have to go to the bathroom, you have to go to the toilet. You have to do this, you have to do that To deport them. You have to go by plane.

Speaker 1:

you have to go, because if you don't, you have to fly because there are many people who are not accepted to receive, for example, the Mexican country says it is not done.

Speaker 2:

So to return to our ironic fact about Haiti, we have people who have deported to Dominica, and then we have the Dominican president who says that we have to respect the rights of the citizens, mr Abinader. So when we have Haitians in the country, we have to respect them. They are in a situation where they have to return.

Speaker 1:

And while we talked about deportation problems for Haitians who live in the United States, haitians have experienced it in the country and in its domain. Of course, on the other hand, it's not easy. It's a shame that we can't go to the Aïtian Sahel and live in the country and its domain, because we can't really we can't go to the other side. We can't go to the other side.

Speaker 2:

There is no need necessarily for situations, but this is because, whatever the situation, there are conditions established at the international level that say that, say that refugees, that people who are supposed to be deported, are not allowed. But then, 5 or 10 days ago, in the debate, when we were talking about the fact that we were taking into account that there were only 6 or 10 people, 5 people who were not considered and 5 people who were just put in our car and then just left to another country, we believe that there are questions that we can raise about this regarding the country we live in.

Speaker 1:

It's a humanitarian consensus that doesn't exist.

Speaker 2:

And again we have to return to the political aspect. Immigration is deteriorating in the United States in relation to people who live in politics, who don't have the same greatness as the former leaders or even a series of leaders, because, in relation to the book, we were talking about Mr Kennedy as soon as he was in the dynamic to make a. We are talking about, as Mr Kennedy said, he is the same as soon as he enters the dynamic to make a confrontation. He takes a global approach.

Speaker 1:

And before we even finish with Swabda, if I were to quote an old senator who is a member of the Champlain administration, Marco Rubio, I would say that he is the the book A Nation of Immigrants and the ring reminder of where we, the United States of America, come from. We must remain mindful that there is much more that unites us than divides us. John F Kennedy's legacy how many, how many, but let a nation of immigrant always remind us of our shared dreams, goals and destiny as a nation. So Gaddi Konya la tanda.

Speaker 1:

Paola nega la, c'est une action, c'est vu konya la un gada next a cup Baye. Administration. We have to look at the administration that has oppressed us. That has oppressed us and that has put us in the other person's life.

Speaker 2:

But there are situations sometimes that are difficult to understand. But, at the same time, people in politics are always in power. They have a series of opinions and attitudes. When they take power, their power makes them change their attitude completely. It is extremely important for us to greet people who have courage so that they can overcome and face their situation. Because in the case of people who are from this situation Because if you look at the goods that came out of Cuba, they offered advantages compared to other countries, because for Cuba to get there, to cross, to get here, you say that after a year it's like an automatic green card. You process what other country has been through, which we are not even obliged to go through, because it was a special law that we had to follow because we were fighting the Castro regime, which was still in place.

Speaker 2:

Since we arrived through this gulf. We landed here. We received that. We found a system that was more or less well established to frame people. That's what we in the Panouan community often do. We don't do it because so many people who have been there. Sometimes they are very hesitant, but they frame people and after a year, if I'm not mistaken, people in Gendoua started to enter their own processes. So we in Gendoua have been there for a long time. Well, we have certainly taken a little bit of that which offers us opportunities. We have been here for 10 years. We have some opportunities here, but no one came here after 2010. We are in 2024.

Speaker 2:

If someone came here, we would have been here for 20 years. We would have been here for 34 years. We would have been married and had children at school. We would have had the opportunity to adjust the situation to exceed 4 GPS. So people themselves. They have to decide tomorrow. Ok, gps 50.

Speaker 2:

So you mean that people have to return to their country. So who really is Haiti's people in Konya when, in the long term, we have about one million people displaced? Maybe people who lived in our neighborhood, who were crushed in 2010 due to land losses, who may have started to rebuild, who have not yet been rebuilt, but who remain there, who have been displaced? When we see people like that, we see them. So it's like a passing of the time. That's what Mr Rubio-Tap said in the message in the book. When we see people who have received a lot of messages message in this book when you believe that people will get the same message to give a situation, to say that people will get it after 14 years of being married, etc. Etc. You have to accept it. When you see people doing this, even if they do get it, you have to take it on the ground. The fact that in the United States, immigrants not immigrants are automatically considered American citizens is a sign that they are not legally in a country where they don't have the right to be citizens.

Speaker 1:

We know that sometimes and it's always a concern people who are in government or in politics, people talk about it. The person who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one, who is the one who is the one.

Speaker 2:

But it's not just that. Let's take a look at what's happening right now. The president is marrying an immigrant, vice president Vince is marrying an immigrant, and the law, for example I know this now, after this I understand the Supreme Court says that for a long time under legal residence you marry someone, automatically you have the right to a green card. When you say you're retired, you have have a green card. If you don't, you have to withdraw your money Because people will automatically come to work. So you have to withdraw money to make people come. That means if it was during this period that the President was marrying a woman, or the Vice President was marrying a woman, he would have had to marry a woman right Because, no, if he was in power, he would have done something else.

Speaker 1:

No, you have the power. You have to make the law. No, if it's different, you have to change the way you enter the house Because you have to look at the situation as if you don't have to speculate.

Speaker 1:

Or almost, live in a situation where you are confused. You have to ask yourself who is abridging. Is it the law this have already established to be followed, or is it a law that is already established to be followed? There is a lot of confusion, the confusion that we had with Abdil and you, the young and the old, on the first day. It was the same confusion and I personally, at the time, thought that I was under the TPS status. I panicked because, in principle, I always had confidence that God would start, doesn't end. That's how I live my life. Even if it's a difficult situation, even if it's hard, I tell my friends with my slogan, my mentality God, let's start so that it doesn't end. Even if it's not that we have to cut the branch, we have to go to the place where the branch is, where we can pray, change the blessing and give it to others. Even if we don't want to start, we can go to a place where we can pray, change the blessing and give it to others, and that's what I want to share with everyone.

Speaker 1:

What year was this, sir? It's been five years, 2016? Yes, in 2016,. Even the frustration, frustration, the same tension, the same stress that we have to live together with Lila. We experienced it ourselves in 2016. And that Mr Avini said he would renew TPS. Avini made a lot of people panic. A lot of people fell. In Canada, a lot of people were forced to get married without getting a wedding plan, so it was really chaos and finally they decided to renew TPS. They were able to renew TPS every 18 months and the amount paid will be $410 or $510 in total. The person who will come to do it will be removed and put to renew every 6 months For the same amount. It is true that we have situations like that, where people experience difficult situations, and that each person has a person who function or deal with pressure or tension, but Jean-Marie Daniel says no, we don't panic.

Speaker 2:

First of all, I have to say something about the testimony that you gave. Excuse me if I take the initiative. I think that the book that Dr Beatrice wrote, if we read it and we advise to read it it is available online we can buy it. The question is clearly who was stressed and how did it even happen? Are they in this situation? So, please, we continue this, this book by Dr Beatrice. I don't know if you can talk about it in front of you.

Speaker 1:

Even if it's not, that, that's what I wanted to say I thought you were going to talk about that book and all the people who are watching who are waiting. Books are always on sale on Amazon, barnes, noble, a Paradise Lost in a Merciless Separation. So get your copies and and hopefully this year or beginning of next year, you will have the French version of it.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So what I wanted to add about that is that everyone has a different experience about what has happened. It's true that we have to explain to people all that is possible, we don't have to panic, but it's the same thing that that they are not panicking. But they know it. They know that there is life, that the cause is for one reason or another. Sometimes they have anxiety, they have fear, sometimes they feel that they cannot function, they cannot give. But we want to first to put in place a program that is legal or legal and under legal circumstances, for whatever reason, especially if it's not changed to make you worried or to put you in a difficult situation.

Speaker 1:

To put you in a stressful situation.

Speaker 2:

The second aspect is related to the decision that was made in the first mandate that Mr Trump made when he decided that TPS would not renew. There are groups, advocacy groups that are groups of lawyers, who take the situation and go to court and it's because the court decides that they can't cancel it, they can't cancel the contract, that they can't eliminate it. The program will come to an end After they come to renew it. Everyone knows that there is a possibility that the situation will be more regularized, but already, when they go to court, the situation, but already the court has said that we will not do that. Probably we will have a different relationship with the immigration capacity, the same situation that we will develop. So what will we do? We will have a federal judge who is a Democrat who is appointed, and a Republican judge who is appointed. The Republicans will make a decision that is favorable for them. They will make a decision before a judge who is favorable for them. They make a decision in front of a Republican judge who they think has adopted a position that they have not In the same way, that democracy has more or less the same attitude as we have. I go in front of a judge who thinks that he is sympathetic regarding the situation we are in. So probably we are talking about a set of lawsuits that take place that are related to the situation, that that are taken, related to the situation in which we have judges, for example, regarding the right to land, the right to blood. There are judges who block them because they take executive orders to say that they have not been legalized, etc. Or that they do not have the right to have an American passport. So when there is a situation like that, it is expected that the the situation goes further. Probably he will go to Supreme Court.

Speaker 2:

When he came here, the situation developed. Did the Supreme Court say that it was the precedent? Because normally the system of the Basis of the Sault Steaurois, of the 106th, it tells him what happened before. It was judged by a decision, it was ordered, it happened afterwards. It's not even same with the German system, where the law is only one of three. If they say you do one of three, if it's not only one of three, it's like everything else that doesn't exist. So there, they make a parallel. They don't have the same situation, but they analyze it with two situations together so that we can apply the same principle. So that's what they say.

Speaker 2:

So, but do we have people who respect their own words? Because we see that Many people who say that their language is very old, who say no, no, no, it's a law, it's not going to change anything. When we come into power, everything will change. So does that mean that the government will change? We will not be able to do that. That's what we're saying, but for the moment, we are not going to stop the law. It will automatically be done.

Speaker 2:

We will have a term of vote, hoping that by then, the government will have calmed down Because the elections will have been held and the other government will have started to develop. The situation will calm down Because the other elections will be held and we will have a lot of new things to develop and we will have a good precedent. Because to do it, we need a budget. To be able to see people go, we need money. The majority that comes to Congress it's maybe five or six Republicans more than Democrats. So we need negotiations to get the money to go to the Democrats. You said that negotiations must be made so that the money that goes into the budget, that is in the institutions, can continue to be applied politically, do you?

Speaker 1:

still have a budget of 8 million, 8 million 8 million, which is already there.

Speaker 2:

But if you do more because it is not the same day you will have about 34,000 beds, 34,000 cabins that you can put people to sleep in. So, if you want to increase the number of people who have stopped because I think that right now there are 700-800 people a day and if you want to come back, there are about 1,500 people who have stopped a day.

Speaker 1:

But, nathan, in the number of people who have already stopped, are all of them people who have crimes related to?

Speaker 2:

their files. We have case is collateral. It's not necessary that there are people who by chance are there many people who are there, even if they are in crime, and then they go there. They go there and then unfortunately they don't get papers to pass everything.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's a consulate. I was in prison for that. They were there. While they were, they were doing a protest. When the police returned, they took the property and the car I was there. I saw the car we were there, so they stopped us all by association.

Speaker 2:

That's why the Haitians are so hardworking they want everyone to leave, but they don't want everyone. And then they will certainly come and take you out. They will take you to the police station, but they won't let you stay there. If you don't have papers, you you have no chance to do anything.

Speaker 1:

But during this time you have to hire a lawyer. You don't just go like that. You can go to Haiti, but not here. You have to stay here for 2-3 days and if you do it here, the judge decides for you. If you don't do it here, you can stay here for 5-6 months. If they don't have more, they can't pay their lawyer. If they don't have a legal job, they can't pay their lawyer. Sometimes lawyers don't work, but they are not as fast as lawyers. There are a number of obstacles that we don't need Before we continue.

Speaker 1:

I know that the CUNYALAG is in a situation where we have TPS or the Biden program. I know that to change the TPS or the Humanities Power Statute it's not easy, because to change the CUNYALAG, it's either you have to bring what you have or not easy to change. To change the way we live, we have to either bring in the dead or bring in the dead. I know that it's hard to say how many people have been affected, but I hope that even if there are many people affected, it will be a pleasure, and if there are people in a situation like this, then there are relationships and the situation that you are in and your opinions in relation to it.