Your world with Dr. Beatrice Hyppolite
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I am Dr. Marie Beatrice Hyppolite. I hold a doctorate in Health Science with emphasis on Global Health and master’s degree in social work. I have over 14 years of experience in the field of health and human services.
This podcast is primarily focused on mental health and the quality-of-life elements that affect it such as divorce, death, domestic violence, trauma, toxic relationships, and single parenthood to name a few. It is no secret that mental health challenges continue to profoundly impact modern society although not enough discussion is given due to stigma. Research has shown an increase of 25 % in mental health crises after COVID-19. It is important to have honest, uncomfortable conversations about mental health while being supportive. Although we are interdependent, change begins with the individual, hence “your world.”
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Immigration Challenges, Legal Complexities, and Historical Perspectives
Explore the intricate landscape of immigration with Mr. Claudel Daniel, who shares his expertise on the Haitian experience and broader immigration issues. We promise to offer a deeper understanding of how illegal immigrants are often unfairly labeled as criminals, while also tracing the persistent anti-immigrant sentiments that have paradoxically plagued a nation built by immigrants. Drawing insights from John F. Kennedy's "A Nation of Immigrants," Master Daniel provides a historical lens through which we can view these ongoing challenges, urging us to remain informed and true to the complexities of these issues.
We unravel the multifaceted legalities of immigration, from the nuances of political asylum applications to the critical importance of keeping personal information current with authorities. Our discussion sheds light on the pathways to legal residency and the potential pitfalls of overstaying visas or entering the country without inspection. With a focus on the criteria for deportation, especially following criminal activity, we highlight the crucial role of law and order in maintaining community stability. Join us for a comprehensive look at the current immigration landscape, enriched by Mr. Daniel's profound insights.
Hello everyone, I'm Dr Beatrice Hippolyte and this is your World. With Dr Beatrice Hippolyte, we invite a lawyer and immigration lawyer to help us understand the situation that has taken place in the area. While the Liberals are in the limelight. The privilege to be together with us in the studio, master Claudel Daniel. Master Claudel Daniel, how are you.
Speaker 2:Hello, dr Hippolyte, and hello to everyone who is watching. Hello, good evening. I'm going to ask you to attend the show today. Thank you for the invitation. We are in shape. As good Haitians, we are all worried about what is happening to us. It is with pleasure that I am invited to speak about this news Deportations.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I want to say something specifically for Haitians this is what takes care of ourselves to make our language.
Speaker 2:There is a point that I think is important to start with in deportation to better understand it's not because you live in Biden that you are only concerned. It's not because you are in TPS that you are only concerned. It's for the illegals in general, who are concerned Mainly in the word Mansala. If you are illegal, you are a criminal offender. The main problem is that the illegal offerings are criminal, that is to say, the things that are made to gain access to the sale of a judge for criminal offences, or even, in particular, there is a target that is set to go further, in addition to the illegal aspect, if there is a deportation for whatever reason, or if you are in a deportation, or even if you are in a particular target.
Speaker 2:Otherwise, we have to start with the choice to make you understand't panic, we can't panic. On the other hand, we can't even talk about it as information to help us understand what we are doing, what we are doing, to behave in this moment. And to return to the main point, I think it's the mental problem that we are facing. What is the migration problem that has certainly shaken us? To come to a relaxed time a little bit, to be able to really do that, because we know it's difficult to live in that situation.
Speaker 1:Daniel, the immigration problem is not a problem that we can't face with the young people today. If we look at history, it's a problem that has been going on for more than 60, 70, 80 years, and today people have more right to panic because of tensions or new administrations. They have made promises to the campaign and automatically they have risen to power. They have made promises. They say well, I myself arranged to execute a promise.
Speaker 2:Approach to the group is extremely important in relation to the issue of immigration. Even in the 1960s, we have risen in the country's conception it is a country that is based on immigrants. These are people who have escaped to other countries, in Europe mainly, who came to Latin America, who came from India, who, as I said, took a country from them, who, in the majority, displaced and even exterminated Indians and then controlled the land. This means that it is a country that really suffered a lot because of immigration. In other words, I would say that even the group of people, because they are, countries that really have a lot of immigration.
Speaker 1:In other words, you mean that even the group that has seen oppression, trouble, land, land and other people, they themselves think that they are immigrants from Pesa.
Speaker 2:If it's not them, it's not them. If it's not their father, it's their grandfather. So you mean that maybe some people in the past who have seen people like a person or a parent, they have already come to take this job. It is the people who have lived on the land that they have come to take. So it means that this is a problem that dates back to yesterday. But every time and as people say in the book that you have just read, which is a really interesting book, nation of Immigrants, I think there are passages on the world side that are extremely important. Maybe you can give us a little lesson to start with, to put us in context, to situate us in the past, yes, which is really important.
Speaker 1:And then Mark showed me this book. It's a very good book, it's a really good book. It's about those who are able to educate themselves. It us is An Edition of Immigrants by John F Kennedy. Yes, and the book is a passage for us, but unfortunately that passage is in English because that book is in English that he wrote.
Speaker 2:I want to say that, unfortunately, we don't want a translation that is not authentic. We prefer for our own good, and that's what the mission itself is about. It's authenticity For us. To not authentic, we prefer to understand, and that's what this mission is about to be authentic. To be authentic, I will leave it to John F Kennedy.
Speaker 1:Good point. I will start. For us, since the beginning, immigration has been an affirmation of our success, not a threat to it. People wish everything to wish this land because they believe in our greatness, our laws, our good values, our promises and possibilities. Today, our legacy is being threatened by the same chorus that met President Al Kennedy when he had the boldest to tackle the realizer quota system. Their voices sound familiar Immigrants will flood our cities and towns. They will take our jobs. They will threaten our culture. They will threaten our culture. They aren't from us, they aren't like us. Fifty years later, those voices still have not updated their talking points. Fifty years later, our broken immigration system is still a source of oppression, of anguish and loss. This is the human wreckage of American immigrant policy. This is the trauma and torture that dark forces, supremacy and prejudice are brought to bear in a land that sticks its name on brighter, better things equality, dignity and freedom.
Speaker 2:Alright. So I think that this passage I'm going to put it on the screen because I think it's extremely important for us to dissect it. I think there are four or five passages that you take the last one to dissect so that we can really understand in depth the problem we are facing today. It's not a problem that came from yesterday and President Kennedy was confronted with a completely different approach compared to what we live today. Because they understand that immigrants are not a major party. Instead, they are only a part of the party. And that's where we come back to.
Speaker 2:We talked about the candidates who made political promises. I remember one of them saying I love the uneducated one Because they have a reason simple to do that. It's Mounissa Ayu, in particular, who felt that she was threatened, and it's Mouin I who, despite the fact that the majority of the people who are doing it have an interest, they have no problem voting against their own interests by the fact that they feel threatened. To give you a simple example that is out of date Springfield Ohio. There are Haitians who go to Springfield Ohio. There is another city that I will not talk about which is extremely in more or less the same situation as Charleroi in Philadelphia. There are Haitians who are fighting in their own country, but they do. And then there is a debate in the town of Nisaro, but I don't go there.
Speaker 2:In the morning, I take the sea, I walk with Jesus, I cross the land here. There are reasons why this is where they are going. What makes them go to this area? First reason there is a trade field in this area that is looking for employees to come and work in this area. But what makes them need employees? It's because people in this area think that they don't have a job. They think that they are not paying enough. They think that they can benefit from employment if they leave 12-17 years old to a boss who is not necessarily of their best interest. Here we are in 2024, 2023. But before that.
Speaker 1:So in this way, people who come here take advantage of the opportunities. Because we have a complex environment, because we come here to profit from opportunities, because we have a complex payment system, because when you come, you just need to find work, you need to work, you need to support yourself. What work? It can be $5, it can be $20, it can be $10. But at the moment you just need to find financial stability.
Speaker 2:Exactly. But again, in addition to that, how did we get there? It's because we have to insist on it. We don't go there every morning and say you landed in Springfield, you landed in Charleroi, or there in New York. Let's say you landed in Brentwood or somewhere around there. Because what happened? Some people asked, who were not satisfied? It's companies that closed their hands.
Speaker 2:And when there are people who have made contact, as long as there are Haitians, people who are interested in doing a job, they make contact with people who are in Haiti or with consuls, people who are responsible. And then your first group of people who came in. Well, the first group of people who came in. They came to work, they came to the opportunity, they started to continue to lead people, which means that, as time goes by, haitians will do a good job. The patrons will be satisfied and they will also make declarations to say that, for the moment, we are allowing people who are supposedly authentic here to apply, or Haitians who come to apply there. Haitians take four or five times before taking them in Muntaro, because Haitians are not snowing. They present it In Haiti.
Speaker 2:We don't usually talk about snow. We don't talk about snow in Haiti, but we have to adapt our situation because of the circumstances we are living in. We are talking about the same situation as in Haiti. We have to make sacrifices, we have to respect the law, we have to respect the situation, and people know that. We have to insist that it is not necessarily illegal immigrants Because their program was made to lead them there, but they areed it. If we take a closer look after we talked about deportation, if we intervene in a Biden program that limits them, or if someone enters here who was illegal at the time and then they come to TPS, there is a risk that they will say that they have a TPS program. If someone says there is a risk, they will say that they have deported them too. It is because they are creating a program that you are doing in your world. We are talking about mental issues, mental problems that we are facing Every night. We are not able to sleep because of it. Are you not coming to take it? No Time to pose. It is a step. It is like a country that has a law Okay, so when you arrive here, they gain a status.
Speaker 2:It's based on the status to keep them Okay. If they gain a TPS status that is valid until 2026,. They don't have to think about deportations at all. They return to their own country. Meanwhile they look for a place to live and, in the meantime, to find out who is the one who won, to come to the residence to manage the situation.
Speaker 2:If you are in a Biden program, when you are there, you know the reality. You are offered the possibility for people who are living in the first wave, who have been there for two years, for everyone to have TPS. Do you have TPS? If you have TPS, you will have it until the end of the year. You will not have a problem. You will not have any worries, Because before we go there because there is a situation to return to the point of Panika DAIC has been doing this and we are not the same.
Speaker 2:What does that mean? If an ICE agent passes by and I will talk about this later then he can run away. Why? Because if an agent runs away, he will automatically suspect that the person who ran the race was a person from the Aïtian region. When you stop, you ask who passed and why did he run. You don't even know him. You say he's from another region. You don't know why he ran. Okay, don't stop. All of this is a legal resident who has rights in this country, so why are you panicking because someone has accused you of deporting people who are not able to find a way to deport people? We need to keep in mind the situation of the people to know if there is a category that we are targeting at the moment, because there are different stages of deportation.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what I wanted to ask you as an immigration lawyer. What are the conditions, what are the steps you take to make people fall under the situation that you have deported them to?
Speaker 2:I think it's extremely important to be able to take it step by step, to not press the data, so that we can understand what has been done. First, we have to know how to qualify a person who is under deportation or perhaps we have to stop saying that he is under deportation. First we have to help or judge. We judge more often. The judge will decide whether to take a decision regarding a case that has been filed in immigration. When we talk about immigration branches that say that they have been deported and most often people know that they have been deported they are aware that they have the right to deportation. In the case of the people who have applied for political asylum, they have asylum fundings and these fundings have conditions to respect the legalities of the case, to see if they are qualified for asylum. If they analyze the case and see that they are not qualified for asylum, the legalities say that you are good to be deported. You will be returned to Nampéya. You will have your documents, your ID card, but you will be deported.
Speaker 1:After you have done your analysis you will be justified or determined that you are not qualified to be in Nampéya.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you will be qualified to be in Nampéya, but what has happened is that not many. Not only will people receive deportations, but also the IAEA. Five years, ten years, maybe even twenty years later, how will people do the IAEA? There is always a question that we have to ask. Well, it's a question of personnel and budget, mainly Personnel, in the sense that the amount of immigration judges who come to exceed the amount of files that have come, even with ICE, which is an institution that really has emerged from another institution in 2003. In 2003. Again, it's because you have faced situations that you need to address. There are a lot of people who have documented that they are normal, but they are supposed to deport, but they don't even manage to deport, and that's why we have a program called Catch and Release. They are arrested, they are prosecuted and they are sent to prison, as everyone knows. They are arrested, but they are given an address and when they return, they are made sure that they are needed and they are allowed to join us.
Speaker 2:So that means that everyone knows that immigration has an address. To get a deportation letter in the first month you have to have the address. If you have a deportation letter, you have an address and most often, in addition to people who are in exile, there are people who commit crimes.
Speaker 1:And how do you change your address?
Speaker 2:Normally to stop the legality in 90 days. You are supposed to see us again by immigration and if you don't do that. You are going to fill the form for immigration If you don't do that you will be charged with a violation that could be as serious as the case of the debauchees.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's very important. Can you repeat that for me again, Mr Daniel?
Speaker 2:That means normally you can say ah, I changed my address so I won't be charged. According to the law, under 90 days you will be charged with AR-11. You are supposed to the law. Under 90 days the AR-11 will be formed. You have to fill it up. You have to go to immigration and say I want to change my address to Miami, where I live in Ohio. But where is the address?
Speaker 1:You have to go to Brooklyn, where I live in Queens, where I live in Manhattan. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:You have to change your address, you have to assume that you are going for immigration, but what is it? And if you don't want to say what is it, it's a violation of immigration law. And I base it on that to say, well, if you don't want to know, then you can't do it, you're violating what we have to do.
Speaker 2:So I say that we are in Haiti, we say, ah, it's not for one, but it's not for one, it's for the other, it's the law. It's important to make decisions by respecting the law of the country. If we don't come, we have to adapt.
Speaker 1:The deportation movement that spoke in Ngaouya. I was more worried about the category of people who came to the Biden program. They said that CBP1 has humanitarian power People. There are the ones who are most panicked. They feel comfortable because it is legal. However, there are people who say that even those who were applied for TPS because it was in the Biden program that they came and that they still have deportation lists that are close to that we are doing an analysis here, I will ask a question how do you become legal?
Speaker 2:You become legal for different reasons. The first reason is that we Haitians have passed the data. We came here with a visa and it's not just us Haitians. We came here with a visa and we were able to go to the I-94 and inspect the airport or in the port. They will be sent to the immigration agency to be inspected and then they will be formed in I-94.
Speaker 2:How long will I have to stay in the country? I will have to stay in the country for 5 years and even if I stay there for 5 years, it doesn't mean I will stay in the country for 5 years. It's't mean you have been on a visa for 5 years in the country. It's the I-94 that tells you how long you have been on the country. Is it 90 days? Is it 120 days? Is it 180 days? So when you are there during this period, you are legal. Even if you have been on a visa for 5 years, it's 180 days that you have been on it. After you have passed 180 days, well, it's illegal Because you're not supposed to spend 180 days on it. So they say you overstay the visa. That is to say, if you pass a normal port or an illegal port, you are not allowed to do so.
Speaker 1:And even if you were to pass one, you would have to overstay your visa or go to an illegal port or be subject to deportation.
Speaker 2:Exactly. The second step is that you are not allowed to be inspected at all. And this is the most complicated thing for people who are not inspected at all. And that is the most complicated thing for people who are not inspected Because it means that you have crossed a border, you have crossed Canada and when you come back, you have crossed, you have not arrived. You have not arrived here, you are not inspected. You are not inspected because you have not received any immigration, that is not I-94. And even if you have received any form of immigration, you are not I-94. That means at the airport. At the airport, you have to give your passport number, because you have to have a passport to be able to enter the country. If you don't have an I-94, it means you don't have a passport, so you have to be 100% legal.
Speaker 1:What if you have to put your ID and your ID card?
Speaker 2:It's not a big deal because you can give your name or your passport Anyone who goes online in the Department of State website. They search for I-94, they get the number. Then they get the same number, the same passport, because we are in Haiti. We have the same problem. No, they have to write in Saint Charles. They put ST Saint Charles with S. They write SAINT Saint Charles with S. They are two different names. The last one is different. You have to write exactly how long you have been in immigration. Then you have to write exactly how many years you have been in immigration. You have to write the passport number you came here. Then you have to search and come back.
Speaker 1:Do you think that the immigration number corresponds to the passport number?
Speaker 2:Yes, or do you think so? I don't think so, because we have a lot of cases where, even if we don't know it's dirty passport, yes, supposed, supposed, because we get cases where, even if we have finished, it's dirty. Why did we come for a long time? Sometimes we came when we were ten, fifteen years old here and well, they thought it was ST, they didn't think it was SINT, etc. So they lost the passport, they lost all the documents. So we have to join. They have to take time, so we have to join. They have to wait a little bit to do the research to join.
Speaker 2:But since we went through immigration, we are still in ID4. Ok, and their document, which is currently when we do the information, it will pass everything. A long time ago they had a little card, a little red and white card. If we have a date and we put it on the card, the clip will not be on the card. We haven't done that yet Because it's online to go to Chechelle. So if you need a copy and you want to go to the store, what you have to do is go online to go to Chechelle. The old one is online, but we see it online directly. So if you need to go to the store of the entry to the place where the person has already been. These are extremely important information for us to keep, because it's not just a document that we have to keep, it's a status, it's out of status. These are all extremely important factors to keep in our documents.
Speaker 1:So the important thing is that the person who travels for the first time has to keep this information, not just for the first time to see the country. Not just for the first time, but every time you go back, because it is the same thing that determines how long you are supposed to stay in the country and that's what's important for us to keep.
Speaker 1:If you have a message for those who are entering the Biden program, the parole program speech, who is going to stop, daniel? Because when you panic, you are stressed, you have anxiety, and you know that stress is not only depression, anxiety, stress. You understand it's a mental problem, but the problem is stress too. It can develop other problems, it can raise tension. They will raise the level of sugar in the body and so they will keep on fighting while they are concerned. They are afraid of not deporting them, but they are sick of everything At the same time. They have accumulated under their heads. Who will send a message to everyone? Who will send people who are in the Biden movement?
Speaker 2:The message I have for them is the only word that I can use to say don't panic. Why should we panic? First, if you want to join the Biden program, you have to open a legal program. Why is it illegal? You have to open a program that the government of America was put in place and they have a delay to make it possible in this country. When there is a delay, we will have that, but for the moment it's illegal. Why are you panicking? It's illegal.
Speaker 2:It's not that we have done anything wrong when we are here. If you want to work, work. On the other hand, what is important for me to say, for example, that there is an interest in all to admit that we are on the wrong side of the law, because we noticed that there are a lot of people who thought as if it was the school of law. There are very simple things and I think that the list that I proposed to you that there are differences between people who come to the cause. You can deport them If you commit a crime.
Speaker 2:It's not because they are Biden who wants to say that they are not going to do that, because automatically, if they commit a crime, they are deported and crime is not an obligation that can be given to everyone. There are people who decide, at least in situations that are difficult, to go to the bomb shelter and then they buy it. They stop and they say that it's okay, or even if they distribute it, they will distribute it to them or, not distributed, it is automatically disposable. Or they are in prostitution. Yes, it is another thing that even if you drink this, you can't drink it in the morning. You understand Problem. Or they are very simple. They drink alcohol in the street and then, most often, when they drink alcohol, they put it in a small bottle and they cover it to see what's in it, because they know that they are offenseans. And sometimes it's simple like that. What we do is that we put all the situations that come to the cause in the depot. That's why we think it's important. It's important for us to know that Exactly.
Speaker 1:Especially when we go out to the street.
Speaker 1:We have to know the principles that we are not used to together with you. It's okay for us to make us the same. The same is when you have a bottle of Chita in front of you and you have a bottle of wine, not even a bottle of wine, a bottle of wine, a bottle of NSEA, any big radio station Chita in front of you, the one who is peeing, the one who is drinking a bottle of wine, the one who is running to get a drink and to get on the wheel.
Speaker 2:And the other point is that it is extremely important to raise this point A pile moon. Just because you are being offered, you stop it because you are in a state of debility, you are in debt, you are doing tests, you have to pay a high tax. It is only because of the cause that you put yourself in deportation. Who knows what will happen to you in a? It's not necessary to be there. Another important point to be mentioned is the way we are being led In Haiti. We respect the traffic. If you don't turn left, you'll be in the middle of nowhere. And then boom, if you turn left, you'll be in the middle of nowhere. That's the only way to get out of the city. We don't want to be a problem. We don't want to panic people. We want to respect the law, respect the principles. Another problem that we have in our office. I will take this opportunity to raise it.