Your world with Dr. Beatrice Hyppolite
Hello,
I am Dr. Marie Beatrice Hyppolite. I hold a doctorate in Health Science with emphasis on Global Health and master’s degree in social work. I have over 14 years of experience in the field of health and human services.
This podcast is primarily focused on mental health and the quality-of-life elements that affect it such as divorce, death, domestic violence, trauma, toxic relationships, and single parenthood to name a few. It is no secret that mental health challenges continue to profoundly impact modern society although not enough discussion is given due to stigma. Research has shown an increase of 25 % in mental health crises after COVID-19. It is important to have honest, uncomfortable conversations about mental health while being supportive. Although we are interdependent, change begins with the individual, hence “your world.”
I welcome you to join me on my journey and look forward to your responses.
Your world with Dr. Beatrice Hyppolite
MOTIVATION
Ever wonder how the journey of an immigrant can inspire and transform lives? Dr. Beatrice Hyppolite, our remarkable guest, shares her profound story of resilience and perseverance, from her Haitian roots to becoming a pivotal figure in health science and social work. Her experiences underscore the incredible contributions immigrants make to society, challenging misconceptions and celebrating their invaluable impact. Through her personal narrative, Dr. Hyppolite offers an inspiring look at how her heritage shaped her career and fueled her commitment to Health Science and Social Work.
Our conversation takes a heartfelt turn as we reminisce about the shared challenges of adapting to life in a new country. My friendship with Flo serves as a testament to the power of community and support in overcoming obstacles. We reflect on our early days, balancing work and education, and the critical advice we'd offer young immigrants today. It's a journey of taking chances, recalibrating one's path, and finding strength in perseverance and adaptability, all crucial elements in achieving success in a new environment.
Dr. Hyppolite also opens up about her path to healing and personal growth, including the cathartic experience of writing a memoir inspired by her childhood. From surviving trauma during a tumultuous time in Haiti to finding hope through therapy and storytelling, her story is a poignant reminder of the power of self-care and seeking help. This episode offers not only an inspiring testament to triumph over adversity but also a powerful reminder of the importance of self-discovery and embracing the ever-changing possibilities life presents.
Hello everyone. I'm Dr Beatrice Ippolit and this is your World.
Speaker 2:Hello, this is your World. Today, I have the privilege to be on the set as the one who's conducting the interview. That's a privilege because, as you know, the normal host for this show is Dr Hippolyte, but the wall is a bit switched today. I take her wall and she will be taking the wall of those she interviewed almost every day on this show. It's a privilege for me to have Dr Ippolit on this show. I'm going to interview Dr Ippolit. When she asked me to do that job, I was so, so nervous, because Dr Ippolit does it every single day. Now I am the one to do it. Dr Ippolit, I'm so happy. Thank you for inviting me to do that job, and it's a pleasure to have you on the show.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you. Thank you so much, dr Joseph, for accepting. You know the role of the journalist.
Speaker 2:Which I am of course.
Speaker 1:Because by profession you are a journalist and you have your own radio show called.
Speaker 2:Podium.
Speaker 1:Dation.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Every Sunday, that's every Sunday. What's the time?
Speaker 2:Every Sunday from 4 to 6 on Fiat Aissian FM, we present that show. It's live on Facebook, it's live on the social media as well, but you know what it's not to talk about.
Speaker 1:Podium Dation today.
Speaker 2:I invite everybody to tune in every sunday at 3 pm, right four actually at 4 pm, podium desjardins page on facebook, youtube, all of those, you will find it there. Thank you very much for this. Uh, I would say free ad you're giving me, thank you my pleasure, my pleasure look, let's get serious about this.
Speaker 2:Dr Ipolit, this is. I was thinking about that interview since the day you asked me to do it, because I would first. I knew you for 20 years or more. You are a best friend that's a disclaimer A friend who is interviewing another friend, and as a friend.
Speaker 1:The godmother of one of your children.
Speaker 2:My children, right, my, my princess. And first of all, I know you, but a lot of people know you as well, but I still think there are a few who do not really know you. For those who don't know you, can you tell them who is Dr Ipulet?
Speaker 1:Oh wow, I never really get in this situation like that to really say who am I. You said it. You know, I was born as Beatrice Beatrice Ipulet, Though the full name is supposed to be Marie Beatrice Ipulte, but I normally go by Beatrice Hippolyte.
Speaker 2:They say every Haitian woman has married their names.
Speaker 1:You know, apparently it seemed there was a time in the country where it was a requirement for people to have a first name and a middle name, or two names, you know. And for those who were privileged for their parents to pick their two names, they were just lucky. But for those whom parents didn't know how to pick the two names, when they go to do the birth certificate they'll just, if it is a female, they just put Marie. If it is a male, they just put Jean. That's why you have a lot of Asian male, you know, with Jean, and the female is Mori. So unfortunately and I've noticed the pattern, you know, it's most likely for those who parent were illiterate, so they ended up, you know, with Marie. But those whom parents used to know how to read and write, they have a different name, Like, you may see Pierre Richard, you may see Anne Warbrook but, not Marie, but you know what?
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, my mother didn't know how to read and write, but my given name, the name that my mother really gave me, was Beatrice, and I was blessed and privileged to carry her last name as well, a last name that I cherish to heart.
Speaker 2:That is important. You said it. We will be talking about that later on, but it's a very good thing. Let me say that you were born in Haiti. You migrated to the United States about 20 something years ago and you get all the way up to the ladder, into the last round of the ladder, with a doctorate in public health literally no more like this health science.
Speaker 1:So so I do hold a doctoral degree in health science with the focus on global health, okay, and I also have a master's degree in social work. I've been in the field of the social work you know of social services for over 14 years and during this time I served or worked with different populations elderly, foster care and domestic violence individuals, people with disabilities, as well as criminal justice involved. So I've been around and it's been the greatest privilege of my life to work with different populations, be there for people, meet them where they are, and it's been the greatest privilege of my life to work with different populations, be there for people, meet them where they are and be able to give the best of me. That is so interesting as a person, as a health care provider and as a social worker. Yes.
Speaker 2:Look, many people I met as Haitian myself. I'm Haitian and I migrated to this country about almost at the same age that you. At the same time you migrated here, I decided to go to the field that I chose. But then you decided to go to the field that you chose. What are the triggers to that academic path that you chose? Health science.
Speaker 1:You know I was looking for. How am I going to call this session, this episode? You just gave me some hate, you know, so I think I'm going to call it motivation.
Speaker 1:That's what motivates you, because we have to have things that really motivate us. I was born and raised in Haiti. I came to this country when I was 30 and I was going to be 31 the same year. So don't try to do the math, people. I'll tell you, little one, how old I am. But now just bear with me. And I was 30 years old, but growing up in Haiti.
Speaker 1:So you live with family parents. They didn't have much, and I remember one thing that Asian parents always used to say stay in school, that's the only thing that I can offer you. I don't have lands, I don't have properties, I don't have. I said there is no wealth to leave you. I don't have lanes, I don't have properties, I don't have. I said there is no wealth to leave you. But if you stay in school, you educate yourself. Later on, you can become somebody and you will be able to provide for yourself. They encourage us to gamble on education, because that was the only game that you will never lose. That's what I know best, and when I came to this country at the age of 30, I kept the same mentality. I knew that. You know, I came to this country I didn't have anybody at all, but I knew it was a country of opportunity. I knew if I use my good senses and take the most advantage of it, I can make of myself something. And that's what I did.
Speaker 2:Indeed, you did. But what I just want to get from you, dr Ipulet, a lot of people, young ladies, who came to this country from Haiti. You see a lot of nurses, a lot of medical doctors. They are in the healthcare field, but you take the mental I don't know illness field. As you said, you dealt with people from different horizons. But health science why that? But not nursing, not going to medical school? What triggers that? Is it because you wanted to? Or your life, the way you were raised, seeing your mother, seeing your parents? You think there were some issues that you need to understand better. So that's why you go to that field. Or you need because you there's somebody you couldn't take care of, or someone you have taken care of, so you just go to that field I think you know.
Speaker 1:So for social work.
Speaker 1:I had the motivation for social work or what got me in the field of social work? It's different than what got me in the field of health science. I always wanted that. I wanted to complete a doctoral degree, but I didn't know exactly. I was not focused on what it was gonna be. So the focus was more on public health, because I like to get involved into people's lives. I like to get involved into helping provide a way better quality of life for people. So that's what got me into health science. But what got me into social work is the experience that I had with my mother the way I lost my mother through life and the injustice that I've lived in Haiti. That's what got me into the field of social work, because I wanted to be able to be a change agent. I wanted to be able to, hey, be the voice for those who have no voice, be there to empower those who feel, who seem to be weak or helpless.
Speaker 2:Interesting. That is so interesting. I'm glad I get this and I thank the viewers, those who are watching. They understand much better when I say Dr Hippolyte, in health science field, they understand why you get into that. Let me say that To me. Of course you are a successful woman. You have a very good academic background. You got a doctorate in health science. As we just spoke about it, you are working in your field of expertise. You have your own business. If they go online, they would see it. Now you have your own podcast show. Let me ask this. I was puzzled by this why a podcast? Why do you have a podcast?
Speaker 1:Why a podcast? It's very interesting and I thank you for the question. Radio and television is not something new to me, I know Back from Haiti, right.
Speaker 1:Back from Haiti. I used to be a radio host. The show was kind of different. I had two different sets of shows A religious show called Bonjour Grosmère Good Morning God. I had also an educative show. I really enjoyed what I used to do back home and when I came to this country it was a different ballgame. So you don't get into television or radio just like that. So, and I've noticed it's like it's everything over here you will. What you know, it's something, but who you know. It seemed to be the most important thing. So it's like you may have that higher degree, but if you don't know somebody, or you may work in this job for 10 years, 8 years, just because you're not connected to the white people or don't cater to their ego, you may not amount to the highest level, because I experience it, you know. So there are jobs that I work for, people that I've trained, become supervisors.
Speaker 2:And you still have your same jobs at the same level.
Speaker 1:And what never bothered me when I see it happening, it's because I said, upon taking that job, I was not seeking for professional growth. In a way, I was looking to make a difference into those clients, into the population that I'm serving.
Speaker 1:So when I have a client, you know I will see a client of mine outside and come and greet me and say Missy Pauline, I'm doing this today. I'm doing that today because I followed your advice. That's my reward. That's why, you know, not being able to get promoted in any job never really fazed me or put me in a situation where I feel less than I'm supposed to be, because I know the reason why I took that job, you know, was to make a difference, even if it is in one person's life. I achieved my goal.
Speaker 2:So it's not the promotion itself, it's the service you're providing. That's the way I move. That is so interesting, that's well said and that's great.
Speaker 1:I remember you know, so allow me to call you Flo. It's fine, because that's that's how we call each other, that's fine, that's how we call each other, so people bear with us. So today I'm not Dr Hippolyte, he's not Dr Joseph, so I'm Bibi to him and he's Flo to me. I remember, flo, you know, when we first met, we met at the church in my choir, yeah, so you came to be a member of that choir yeah.
Speaker 1:I was already a member of that choir. I joined the choir probably six or seven months before you know you came to the choir and I remember when we first spoke and the first thing we mentioned was about school. He- did. And I said, he said, I said, when you said I just came, and I said, yeah, I recently came too. Do you have any plan to go to college? What college you want to go to?
Speaker 1:And you asked me the same question and at that time I remember, when we were to take the TOEFL, we took the TOEFL the same day together so one thing that I always admire from you you had a background.
Speaker 1:you completed a college degree back home, the same way I did, but you didn't come with any cheeks on your shoulder. So whatever that you accomplished back home, you left it behind. You understood that, coming to a brand new country, you had to kind of recalibrate, and you did. You took the most creepy job you know, and you never had any shame of doing it. And today look where you're at.
Speaker 2:Right, that is so interesting that you're just saying that Eppolite Bea, I can call as I usually call you. No, it's so interesting that you're saying that you say in that job I wouldn't even call it creepy. That's to me it was the greatest job I could have had, because that's the first place that hired me when I first came here in this country and that's how it allowed me to go to school, to have the degree that I wanted to have, get my masters. Before I can work for this decision, where I get my masters from and get my doctorate, all of those things. That's very important. Talking about this, that will push me to ask you this we have a lot of young people who come to this country very young people, probably younger than than us when we came to this country and they may be so desperate either to go to school or either to work. If you were to give them an advice, what would that advice be? Go to school while you're working or don't go to school, just work, or just go to school without working.
Speaker 1:It depends what your resources are. So if you come to this country and it depends on all of you too if you are a young child 16, 14, or 17, and you live with your parents or family members who can support you, you know, while you have to finish high school and start college by all means, it's going to depend. But if you come, you know like to this country and you are in your 20s, late 20s or early 30s, it's a must that you do both.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the same thing we did actually. Actually. You know, you're no longer a child, so when I came to this country, like I just told everyone, I was already 30 years old. I walked back home with the city about eight to nine years, so I I knew what walking, you know, made at the time. So because I used to walk back home, I was able to save a little bit of money to come to this country. When I came to this country, the first job I took the first month I came I came to this country in the month of January. I came to this country in the month of January, so it was freezing. Bear in mind, haiti is a tropical country.
Speaker 2:So I came in a. You were not used to that winter season.
Speaker 1:I'm wearing coats, boots, hats and everything scarves. So here I am, you know, walking all the way down Flatbush, entering all the dollar stores, asking for jobs. And you know what? Within two days I was hired. The first job I got. My first salary was $3.75 an hour, you know, $45 per day, 12 hours a day.
Speaker 1:But I took that job with a great pleasure. I was proud of myself. Not only nobody took me or looked around with me, with the little broken English that I had, I was able to walk all the way down Flatbush and look for a job. And I found a job within two days. Of course, the amount of money was not too much, but with that money I was able to pay a loan from somebody for $300. You know, when I left my country I was independent, and when I came here, being independent was important for me. I didn't see myself, you know, to rely on somebody else. So later on I stayed in that job for seven months and later on. So it's like I constantly changing job because, bear in mind, when I came to this country I was undocumented. I came with a visa, which I overstayed along the way, so it was not easy for me to go and apply for job because I didn't have no proper document to go and seek for a job.
Speaker 2:You see what I'm saying there. If it were, if you were on podium the journal. I have a question I would have asked you, but because it's? I mean you're on your show, I'm on your podcast and your podcast is not a political show, so I'm not going to talk politics, because I hear a lot of that, as you said, when you came here.
Speaker 1:Let me grant you permission to ask the question Because, like people normally say, life is all about politics.
Speaker 2:Right right On my show. I would have asked you Because I heard a lot of talks like immigrants, about immigrants Specifically in the cycle. We are almost at the end of that political campaign and I heard people from different sides who are talking about immigrants like they are ashamed of being an immigrant. Specifically, if you're coming from the island, from Haiti or so, you should feel ashamed. And if I hear what you're saying, undocumented, when we come to this country, we had no documents, we overstayed our visa, so, but we still follow the proper path Until now. I think you had the privilege to vote for the next president of the United States.
Speaker 2:Yes, and it's a privilege, it's a privilege you came without documents and today you can vote.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not only you can vote.
Speaker 2:Not, I can vote. I voted you voted. You voted, and not only you voted, you have the highest degree, you have a doctorate as an immigrant without documentation. So that makes me think what they are talking about immigrants it's. Either they don't understand the role of an immigrant in any country you know it is unfortunate.
Speaker 1:Oftentimes I don't have the tolerance or the passion to waste time on nonsense or ignorance, because that will not take me anywhere, and I wish that many people who may say things, I wish that they knew history.
Speaker 1:Because if they have known history there, are things that will never come out of their mouth. But unfortunately, because they don't have any knowledge about history, so they feel comfortable to just talk. But to me when they talk, so it's just like you know noise, so I don't really pay them attention. I understand somehow I should have because what they're saying, so while I choose not to pay attention to it, but the people who are listening to it they will take it as a whole truth and come and address you in a very inappropriate manners.
Speaker 1:So it's like that's where the most dangerous come. But even those people who are talking about immigrant, it's either they immigrate themselves or the parents are immigrants or they may married with immigrants people I could you be that hypocrite? It's like you know. So the immigrant is the backbone of the country. Yeah, so I may be an immigrant into the us, in this country, a country that I love and appreciate and cherish because you know the country, you know, kind of like, you know, shelter me, offer me with the greatest opportunities that I could ever have.
Speaker 1:I pray every day, you know, for this country. The same way I pray every day that God, someday my country will change and become the pearl desert that Haiti used to be. It's the same way I pray for that country to every day. Bless the United States of America, because it's my country, I live in this country. If I were to fight to protect this country, I'll fight to protect this country. So you see what I mean. It doesn't matter, you know, if this crazy person said something that was inappropriate, I cannot, you know, kind of like, put the country into few words of crazy people. So, as an immigrant, I came to this country. I brave, I brave so many storms to be in the position that I am today. I pay taxes.
Speaker 1:I probably pay more taxes than the people who kind of like nonsense or try to talk about me as an emigrant down, you know, and I'm like when I look at myself being able to work as a mental health provider, being able to work with people who suffer with mental health problems, both hospital setting and jail setting, so it's like I'm proud of myself, I'm proud of the work that I do, I'm proud of the difference that I make and I'm proud of being an immigrant.
Speaker 2:In this book you talk about a lot of personal matters, very personal issues. The question I want to ask at what stage of your life have you decided to share your personal matters with the whole world through this book? At what stage?
Speaker 1:I have to be honest, I think there was never a stage that I really thought about. I think if I were to come out with a book, my first book would have been on mental health. Yeah, Not a memoir.
Speaker 1:Health, not a memoir. But my childhood friend was Andre Motal Francois. One day he called me and said that she dreamt about her and I working on a book. But I think she basically wanted to put me on the path of thinking about writing a memoir. And so we joke about it, we laugh so and I never really so I can say that was the trigger.
Speaker 1:That was a trigger. And before she hang up the phone she's like B, I'm serious, go and start working on that. And I'm like, please you give me a break. And two days later the girl had the nerve to send me 30 subtitle because she knows my story, she knows my life, we, we were friends since we were 12 years old. We are the same age. And she's like you have the subtitle now, just plug the information in.
Speaker 2:So and I and this is a friend of yours you talk about in the book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so she has a whole chapter on that book.
Speaker 1:And I laugh about it. So it's like you know and I'm like you know what. That's very interesting. I know God blessed me in so many ways. I know that I've accomplished a lot, but I know at the same time many people have seen in me a source of inspiration and I'm like, let me not keep it private, let me be a source of inspiration to many. I don't know how many that I will be able to touch, but I know if I put those words out there in the form of a book, then I'll be able to touch many lives.
Speaker 1:I was so happy when a friend of my friend, who happened to have a 12-year-old son, wrote a whole paragraph about the take out. You know, he got from the book and wrote his mother a letter and the father shared that letter with me and he said now I choose to be a better child because I only can imagine if I were her age at that time and not having my mother, what life would have been for me. And that's the whole purpose. This book is just to empower and encourage people not to get comfortable with where they are or not to blame life on everybody else, not to do the writing, because in general. Love will always be not fair. Life will always be hard, life will always be harsh, people will always be evil. But at the end of the day, the choice you make is yours that is so interesting in chapter two.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna merge two chapters in the book. I'm not going to talk about the whole book because I'm really advising all the viewers to go on amazon, go everywhere you can get the books just go there and get a copy of this book.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what I'm advising you to do, but I just want to ask you a few questions. Within books, as I said chapter 2 and 3, you talk about the expression of obvious pain and also childhood loss in adult adventures. Childhood loss in adult adventures how would you explain the dilemma of pain, loss of childhood and your adult adventures?
Speaker 1:How would you explain that? You kind of like tackle the first? They have the chapters in the book and those chapters were not easy to really put down. I shared a lot of tears, for many of you probably don't know or have heard about the time of Duvalier in the country, in Haiti, like I mentioned earlier. So I was born and raised in Haiti. There was a time the country had faced a serious time where the country had lived under the dictatorship of both the father and son dual value, and I think both of them stayed on to power for nearly 30 years, 29 years at that time the citizens of the country really kind of like, faced a really hard time and you have the so-called Tonto Mako, which to me was a form of gang, but a more organized gang that Duvalier had put together.
Speaker 1:They were like Duvalier eyes. There was a lot of terror that people had to deal with and the worst part. Let's say, for example, if you and your beautiful wife, you know, lindy went to a party and you see a guy who happened to be a Tonto Makut, if that guy you know want to spend the night with your wife at that moment, your wife that you took to a special event, if that Tonto Makot want to spend the night with her, you will have no say, you had to surrender and if you don't, you will be dead and he will take your wife. So there are people who even have experience. You know, upon leaving the church, the Tonto Makot will see the beautiful wife coming out and just get the wife and leave you at the church door.
Speaker 1:So that's a lie that the way I did, that people have lived. You know, in the country during the value time you have people you know, if you have a house, if you have any property or what have you if one, tonto Makoto want to have it so and you tend to resist. You know something. You know you will be put in jail forever or you will be killed, and unfortunately my mother was a casualty to that. You know regime.
Speaker 2:Nightmare.
Speaker 1:You know Uh-huh, and I was.
Speaker 2:How did that happen? How did your mother was a casualty.
Speaker 1:So apparently it was later when I found out that her place belonged to her and there was a Tonto Mako who used to live near and wanted to have that place and she didn't want to give it up.
Speaker 1:And as a result of that, she was put in jail and I remember that night vividly. I was not even eight years old. I probably was going to be eight years that same year. So the incident basically happened in the month of January, something like that. I remember the night that they came and took her, but I know it was night because the light were on, you know, because I always remember that the lights were on and my mother had just given me a shower and put my beautiful yellow nightgown on me, you know, to go to bed. And when they knocked at the door and she inquired who was there.
Speaker 1:So, and the answer was, like you know open the door before we blow your mind.
Speaker 2:I don't want to spoil the story. Yeah, definitely, but still you didn't stay on that Because what is interesting in the book, although these chapters I'm sorry they were so they are tough, as you said, to write those two chapters, as you said, you shed a lot of tears but you didn't stay there Because one of the former American presidents, barack Obama. He writes about the audacity of hope. Actually, in this book you show that hope right, because in a sense that you talk about the power of prayer, you also show how good decisions can come out of broken heart and also disappointment can become synonym of blessings. So you didn't stay in this nightmare.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, I did not, because, bearing in mind, at that time, I didn't know I had a father, I didn't know who my father was. My mother was my everything, my mother was my mother, my father, my everything, like I said. So the word father never, that was not something that was never mentioned in my household. So, and you know back then in Haiti, so you know, kids, we don't ask questions. Yeah, whatever that you don't see, you don't ask about it whatever that you don't you?
Speaker 1:so you don't ask questions. So you ask, you get beaten just for asking questions. I never really asked questions, I think. That never really crossed my attention. I didn't understand the need of a father or if a father was supposed to be around. So that was never an issue for me. And so at that moment, you know. So it was like a neighbor who happened, you know, to have conversation about my mother and she knew where my father was. And that was that neighbor who took me to my father. But unfortunately, my father could not accept me. My father never accepted me to begin with. You know, since the day I was born, my father never wanted to be part of my life. And so when the situation occurred, so my father, you know, when I was brought to his location where he had his business, it was a serious dilemma for him. He was already married at the time but never told his wife. His wife never knew about me.
Speaker 1:Now you're going to bring a child that you never spoke about to your wife, but eventually so his wife. You know it was the wife who ended up coming for me. I don't want to spoil the story. People have to wait it, but it's like you know through that experience, you know so it's like. Now, here I am, in my father's household. You know through that experience, you know so it's like.
Speaker 1:Now, here I am, in my father's household, you know, with siblings that I never knew before, siblings that I never met before, siblings that I'm going to experience to live with for the first time under the wolf, with a father who never loved you back then and sin will never love you even the day after. So I was like, how am I going to deal with that? A father who will compare two siblings, saying that you know I don't want you to play with this one because I don't want her to instill in you bad manners. That other one is older than me. So it was a whole struggle. And when I realized I probably was 8, 8, 10 or less than 12 years old, but most likely when I lost, when the news of the passing of my mother came into the house, that's when I knew I needed to grow, because I've realized that I needed to be an adult.
Speaker 2:I see At a very young age.
Speaker 1:At a very early age to kind of like mango or move around that wall, because I realized that if I don't become an adult very quick it will be hard for me to survive.
Speaker 2:But let me interrupt you there. But while you're surviving, there are some values I would say more values that guided your path throughout your growth, and you spoke about them in your book, like honesty, dignity, morality.
Speaker 1:Let myself be guided by you, know to be the Beatrice that I am today. Be brave.
Speaker 2:Be brave, be you, be bold, be bold, be you, and Beatrice. I think I'm going to stop here. I cannot speak more about the book because it's right there and I'm encouraging everybody who's watching the show right now to get a copy of this book. Barnes and Nobles, amazon, everywhere you can get a copy. You will not regret it.
Speaker 1:It's a very well put book you know, but one thing that I want to say to everybody who's listening or watching.
Speaker 1:I know life is not easy. Just the fact that it was hard for many. It doesn't have to be the same for everybody. But at the same time, don't sit at one place. Don't say I'm not going to push my life or myself because my mother was supposed to be there for me, or myself because my mother, who's supposed to be there for me, was not there for me when I needed her, or my father, who was not there for me. You know the time that I needed him. So it's like as a result to that, if I end up not to be anybody in life, it's because my mother was not there for me or my father was not there for me.
Speaker 1:I understand that can be a very huge impact on your life, but at the end of the day, you have to learn how to live beyond this, to move on, because whatever that your mother, your father was supposed to do for you and for whatever reason, they were not there for you. But you cannot let their behavior dictate the future of your life. Your life is your life. You have to take responsibility of your life. You have to know what you want to become. You know where do I want to go in life. Where do I want to reach in life? Because if I sit here and keep on putting blame on you and don't do whatever that I have to do for myself, it's going to be for my own loss.
Speaker 2:You see what you're saying. That's exactly I let this what you just said. I live by it every single day. I can share my success with everybody else, but my failure is only my own.
Speaker 1:Yes, if I failed it because I want to be yeah, I want to fail yeah, if I succeed, somebody probably has helped me to to succeed yeah, I always tell people, so you can blame as much as you want, but at the end of the day, the choice you make is yours.
Speaker 2:So we have this kind of broken family children who are being raised without a father, or even children who are being raised without a father, or even children who are being raised without the mother as well.
Speaker 1:For those kind of children out there. What's the message for them? Life is hard. It was hard yesterday. It's hard today. It may be harder tomorrow. Yesterday, you know, we dealt with an evil world. Today, the world seems to be very evil than it was yesterday and tomorrow it can be worse, but at the end of the day, we need to take actions.
Speaker 1:Our actions matter, the way we move, the choices that we make in life. They matter. So it's like don't stay at one place and say you know what. So that's my reality. Somebody was supposed to be there for me, was not there for me. As a result to that, I'm not going to do anything with my life. I'm not going to move forward. I'm not going to try to expand or accomplish something good for my life, because it's going to be for your own loss. If you got to a point where you feel that you may need professional assistance, you may need therapy in order to move, because there are people who can stack at one place, then seek for therapy, because staying at one place is not going to do you any favor, because, at the end of the day, the person was supposed to do whatever that she or he was supposed to do for you and never done. It probably will never care. But while you choose not to care about me, I cannot allow myself not to care about Beatrice.
Speaker 2:Dr Ipoli, thank you for sharing your story with us today.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Thank you so much for doing this. It was a pleasure. I'll see you next time.
Speaker 2:My dear friends, definitely you will find something to get from that interview. Today it was your world and tomorrow it will still be your world. Ciao, see you next time.